_Originally released October 2023._ In today’s episode, host Rob Wiblin gets the rare chance to interview someone with insider AI policy experience at the White House and DeepMind who’s willing to speak openly — Tantum Collins.

Learn more and see the full transcript on the 80,000 Hours website: https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/tantum-collins-ai-policy-insider/

Chapters:
• Cold open (00:00:00)
• Rob’s intro (00:01:00)
• The risk of autocratic lock-in due to AI (00:10:02)
• The state of play in AI policymaking (00:13:40)
• China and AI (00:32:12)
• The most promising regulatory approaches (00:57:51)
• Transforming the world without the world agreeing (01:04:44)
• AI Bill of Rights (01:17:32)
• Who’s ultimately responsible for the consequences of AI? (01:20:39)
• Policy ideas that could appeal to many different groups (01:29:08)
• Tension between those focused on x-risk and those focused on AI ethics (01:38:56)
• Communicating with policymakers (01:54:22)
• Is AI going to transform the labour market in the next few years? (01:58:51)
• Is AI policy going to become a partisan political issue? (02:08:10)
• The value of political philosophy (02:10:53)
• Tantum’s work at DeepMind (02:21:20)
• CSET (02:32:48)
• Career advice (02:35:21)
• Panpsychism (02:55:24)

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  • @goku-pops7918
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    Very interesting but not comforting.

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