Jordan is at Toyota’s North American Headquarters in search of answers to their electrification strategy, especially in terms of battery electric vehicles.
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00:00 Hello & Welcome
02:48 Hybrid & Electric History
05:55 Strategy Updates, Or Lack Thereof
07:08 Driving 2024 BZ4X Limited AWD
21:05 Limitations, Route Planning, OTA, Charging
26:52 Environmentalist Goals
28:22 Final Thoughts
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Surely, the only possibly buyer of the bZ4X is someone who has inhaled a near-lethal dose of hydrogen
International Energy Agency (IEA) Global EV Outlook 2024 – Forecasts
USA
2030: 45% BEV sales share (55% total EV^ sales share)
2035: 58% BEV sales share (71% total EV^ sales share)
World
2030: 35% BEV sales share (44% total EV^ sales share)
2035: 49% BEV sales share (55% total EV^ sales share)
^ All EVs includes BEVs, PHEVs and FCEVs.
23:50 are you happy to see the BZ4X ? hahahah
the bz4x is like a half finished prototype that they released on to the market to somehow show toyota do sell EVs. Cleary it was done on the cheap and is not a serious entry in the EV market just a prototype. Telsa would be much better value.
I have its Subaru version the Solterra premium and absolutely love it. I’m leasing it for $213 a month for 36 months at 12k a year couldn’t pass the great lease deal up. I home charge it on my off grid solar panels and have a 12 mile commute daily so it fits my needs perfectly. I needed AWD for where I live so it works perfectly for my lifestyle. We use Subaru’s complementary rental ice car if we need to travel outside the area, so no problem traveling.
Sad, sad, sad – not Jordan 🙂 – but Toyota's attitude….
Hybrids are bought because of the safety in order to go to work.If the electric is down you can always drive on gas .Those who has two cars one of them will be a gas car and the other an EV.You have to get to work in the morning every day of the week and cannot rely on an EV and charging.EVs are not free from errors.
Dude your videos are really great. Your takes are well thought out, and I do appreciate the little production quality flavours you add (music and drone footage).
Kyle needs to get you doing more solo shoots!
40 minutes ? We did a 600miles trip, and took 30min every 120miles to do 10 -77%
2022 fwd
We need a range test of the new Model 3, Long Range, RWD. Based on other range ratios (advertised, vs real world highway range) it seems it might be able to do 290-300 miles on a single charge.
Owner for over a year of FWD. Its very comfortable ( way more than model Y). Everything works. Toyota navigation is good and does suggest charging points , but only when % gets low. It does lack preconditioning. I think its a good real world " ownership" car.
Nothing about the total recall of the BZ4X in the U.S.?
BZ4X are sold in the limited numbers only because of the Toyota name. The BZ4X is another failure like the Hydrogen fuel cell Mirai. Toyota are riding a buoyant car market at the moment. BEVs sales are growing at a fast pace which will get faster. BYD has huge growth plans with massive expansion in China, a new factory in Mexico and another in Europe. Tesla has big growth plans too. There are several other Chinese auto manufacturers with big global objectives. Toyota take 5 years to develop a new model let alone a completely new car. As BEVs gain more and market share Toyota will have very little to offer in the BEV market and will start on a sales decline that will only get faster.
"30% EV by 2030"
Roughly 50% of the US population understands that we need to electrify transportation to combat climate change and that going with an EV will save you money over the life of the vehicle. There is even some percentage of the other half of the population that refuses to believe any science (evolution, climate change, vaccines, smoking causing cancer etc.) that still likes the economics of an EV. There is definitely a market to get to 30% ore more EV adoption.
If we allow Chinese EVs we'll hit 30% easily. I understand the need to weaken Chinese EV sales. China has been subsidizing solar and EVs while the US has been subsidizing oil and SUVs. For the US to pivot from last century's technology to this century's technology is going to take some time, and manufacturers need some breathing room to ramp up production.
Assuming we have protectionist tariffs against Chinese EVs the other thing we need to hit 30% is Tesla run by someone who does not keep alienating its core customers. I've been in the renewable energy business since 2006 and everyone I've talked to since 2012 when the Model S first came out has wanted a Tesla… until Musk bought Twitter and started liking racist and antisemetic tweets, firing people arbitrarily, making fun of disabled employees, and supporting political candidates who would like to see Tesla go out of business. Every conversation I have about EVs now is "What is the best alternative to Tesla, because I'm not giving Musk any of my money."
Poor review! “Has good software!” No. “It’s a fine car!” No. “If you get the front wheel drive version and home charging, it’s doable” That’s just poor justification. “They BX4X are actually good cars” No they are not. “It’s a fine car” No it’s not The reviewer try’s to justify all of its shortcomings rather than give a balanced review. He does point out the many shortcomings but plays them down. Poor review.
Comparison to a Vinfast is a poor comparison. The Vinfast is not a good car and has only sold in very small numbers in very few countries in the world outside of Vietnam. Why not compare it to BYD and Tesla the number one and two of BEVs worldwide? That would be a more fair comparison.
One version had a yoke which makes more sense.
I would still buy this EV, but it is not available in my country. But it is sad, how the Japanese car manufacturers are still behind.
Toyota got caught in between the BEV transmission and in reality they had it right but as most of us know hybrids are great but not the answer nor are they nearly as fun to drive and are still a pain to maintain not to mention massive oil consumers with gas and oil changes…
They still don’t have a clue. It’s actually called self sabotage. The limitation on how many times you can charge a day is a massive red flag. Glad I own Teslas. 😅
Wonder how the range is so low, and the price so high in the US? it's 55K (plus tx, minus incentives) in CAN$ for the XLE.. Range is around 260miles in Quebec, colder temp.
Real question is.. that display Jordan, was made for the Drive By Wire steering wheel originally. When is THAT gonna be available? Then the display will make sense with that steering wheel! But for now.. yeah. Weird.
Also, the 3 charge are 3 "Complete" cycle, meaning from 10 to 80%. Meaning "210%" total DC fast charging. You can potentially charge the car 5 times from 20 to 60 for example.. at 150kwh each time.. So if you know your route in advance, it's not hard really to plan for them.
Cheers and thanks for the video!
There’s nothing appealing about this EV. Do they offer $199/mo lease?
Toyota, hates EVs so that's why they dont care about how they drive and will never make greats Ev's as they can.
Locking you out after 3 DC charges in a day?! wtf.. that's unacceptable.
The BZ4X FWD is the best version for a daily driver, as it has 15% better range,
Man, this cladding around the wheels is really not my thing… 🤮
I'm all in on EVs. I currently drive a 2023 Bolt EV and I'm looking forward to the next generation Bolt. Toyota was criticized for being skeptical of a near all EV future. They were partly right to be skeptical. For EVs to truly replace fossil cars in the US millions of charging points are needed. We are years away from that goal. I think hybrids, which I'm not a fan of, are probably going to dominate the car market for the next couple of decades. I'm just guessing but I think it may take another 30 to 40 years to reach a 💯% EV future. Gr8 vid as usual. 🚙 🇺🇸 🔌 ⚡
Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤
Has Toyota begun spending the $500 billion needed to put its hydrogen infrastructure in place yet?
OMG that interior. That's a freaking time machine to the 90's.
Went from an aging 2013 Model S to a 2024 Solterra Limited about a month ago.
Consistently get 3.7mi per kWh (about 240mi of range) with the climate always going, zero phantom drain while parked, and peaks out at 88kW all the way up to 60% while charging.
These vehicles fall short on paper, but exceed in the real world IMO.
I know most people are going to defend a $50k purchase they've committed to, but honestly from someone who's had 3 EV's in the last 10 years. I really do love this car.
toyota is running ads in the US saying "toyota has the most electrified vehicles in america" which feels intentionally misleading for a company that has one true EV, and whose CEO has been openly against EVs.
BYD…?
Please for the love of god, kidnap and engineer and talk to them 😂. This car makes no sense for the average consumer at 50k. With the lease deals, it is great, but i want to know what they were thinking when the put this car out.
I like a low steering wheel actually 🙂
toyota panicked and hastily stappled this toghether wasting no time on EV refinement
Toyota/Subaru/Lexus BEVS allow ICE car like rolling to maximum efficiency. I have the Lexus RZ 450e and it crushes my Model Y in efficiency becuase with the Tesla you have to keep the throttle pressed to keep the (heavy) vehicle moving. This destroys efficiency in stop/go city driving especially, where my Model Y averaged less than 3 miles / kWh. Toyota designed an adaptive automatic regen braking system that recognizes when the car needs to slow down (for curves or stopped traffic) and blends in appropriate regen and friction braking as needed to simulate a true one pedal driving experience. My RZ 450e achieves well over 4.5 miles/kWh and 5-6 miles /kWh in light traffic situations (that’s 247 miles to 400 miles range in city driving!!), which is astounding vs Tesla. Oh, and the ride quality, noise levels, tech and safety features all easily blow away the Model Y. Lexus discounted the RZ 450e to $43,000 and it’s easily the best EV you can buy at any price. Don’t listen to the skeptics.
A long way from 16 dedicated BEVs still, but remember they've already got several, they're just mostly light commercial vehicles…
The bZ4x and Lexus RZ sibling, there's the China only bZ3 being joined by the bZ3x and bZ3c, then they've got 5 BEV vans (possibly just re-badged, but they're still going to count them). That's 10 already, which doesn't sound so bad. And if you assume they'll release a Toyota and Lexus version of each new BEV, then they're 3 BEV launches away from hitting that target.
(They might have more commercial BEVs, I'm just counting the ones in the UK)
Edit: forgot Lexus had that terrible UX, that's 11 BEVs they sell.
Stop floring it bro 😂 you wont see the real range driving like that
Learn to read it said globally
So to sum it up, still overpriced and still underwhelming.
Toyota doesn't seem to be serious about making the best EV that they could. "BZ4X." Really? They couldn't even be bothered to have their marketing department give it a name! I know that this is nitpicking, but it's still true. No frunk? The loss of storage is no big deal in itself, but that is another indicator that the designers had a lot of unhelpful ICE design habits.
The Lexus free car rental for 30 days is very misleading. Try booking one. They are never available when people want it eg holidays. There are not sufficient cars in the pool. So it's just a marketing ploy.
Unbelievable. How can you miss the mark multiple times in a row?
I love my bZ4X XLE FWD. The lease deal was too good to pass up. It’s my first EV so I’m not spoiled by Tesla 😛
Far too many knobs and buttons. Tesla, Rivian, some others have much better arrangements. i guess if you still use a Blackberry, you might like that panel.
Depends where you are for EV %, in UK we have a ZEV mandate that requires a year-on-year increase on %age of EV vehicles sold each year. The 2024 no is 22% EV cars, 2030 it requires 80% BEV cars. …It's the law!
I would love to see a race to Vegas in the quote unquote worse EV's (Vf8, bZ4x, ID4, Bolt EUV) loved the race back doing what the cars said was very fun and interesting
you see why it is bad to spit towards the sky , because all the spit will fall into your face , they eat their own words Toyota 2 years ago i believe or 1 year ago the released a statement: that they will not spend a single cent into ev , batteries, motors, basically they stated that they will not go onto ev technology, and that they will not spent a single investor money into electrification they stated that they were gonna stick with hybrids . you see why is bad to say " i will never drink from that water " because sooner rather than later you "will" you "will" . the mentally of people here in the U.S.A about ev's is very ignorant that's why they prefer their diesel pickups with their Budweisers and their chewing tobacco.